Is finding happiness possible in today’s fast-paced, modern life? In this episode, we find out that the answer is yes, we can! Jen Du Plessis sits down for a meaningful conversation with the Mind Whisperer, Dawna Campbell. Dawna and Jen discuss transitions and Dawna shares her own experiences from being a financial advisor to where she is today. She also lets us in on her thoughts about finding happiness, learning to focus your energy, and gaining emotional harmony. Listen in and be enlightened.
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Life Transitions: A Guide To Finding Happiness And A Fulfilling Life With Dawna Campbell
I’m delighted to introduce you to our speaker, Dawna Campbell. I had the wonderful privilege of speaking with her at a virtual summit called The Confident Women’s Summit. It must have been 70 speakers. I don’t know how many speakers are on that summit. It was a long one. I had the pleasure of listening to her speak. I immediately reached out to her and said, “I would like to have you on my show because what you speak about is everything that we talk about here at the show.”
Dawna, welcome to our show.
Thank you so much for having me here. It’s a pleasure and an honor as well.
We’re going to dig right in. I know that you are an author as well and your book is called Financially Fit. People who hear that name financially fit are immediately going to think, “You must be a financial advisor. You must be in the financial services industry,” but there are some transitions going on with you. Share with us a little bit about what you’re up to and how you’re transitioning into what you’re doing full-time.
Thinking that I’m a financial advisor is not too far off. I’m not, but I used to be. I was a financial advisor and a managing principal of an investment firm. I was responsible for $500 million of other people’s money. That amount of stress, worry, and pressure broke down my health. After spending a couple of years with the medical community, doctors weren’t able to figure out what was wrong. I turned to natural healing and uncovered that I couldn’t digest food and that there was something in the outside world that I could not digest emotionally, which is why I couldn’t digest food physically inside of me. That was my first connection to natural healing and the mind-body connection to who we are with energy, our emotions and feelings, and the impact that it has on our lives.
I have a client. She has been on this show, too. She is one of the first people on this show. Her name is Arwen Becker. She is a financial advisor. One of the things that she says is that, “Everybody, it doesn’t matter who you are. If you work, this happens to you. You sacrifice your health to obtain wealth and then later you sacrifice your wealth to keep your health.” You end up balancing out and going, “Why am I working then because I’m not achieving what I want to do?”
Imagine you came to that conclusion. Step us back in time when you came to that conclusion. You were under stress. I’m very familiar with that type of stress because I was in the financial services industry as well. You had all that stress. Was there a tipping point or moment where you said, “I’ve had enough. I can’t do it anymore. I’m done. I’m over it?”
A couple of them, I had so many changes within 4 to 5 years. What I wasn’t able to digest in the outside world was the relationship that I had with my spouse. It was the anger that I was internally digesting because of the infidelity in the marriage that I was completely blind to. When that relationship ended, he moved out. I released 40 extra pounds off my body because I was happy. I quit going to the gym and eating all the food and the diet because it was all based on, “I’m going to just do what makes me happy at the moment.” From there, I moved to an Ostrom, which is a spiritual living community, to uncover meditation and this mind-body connection and what the natural healers were trying to teach me.
After that year of study, what happened then for me was I was unemployable in the financial services world because it was the global recession. I sacrificed not only my health but also my wealth, as well as all of my relationships within a 4 to 5-year time period. It was like this huge domino effect. When I was done, it was like, “I’m going to dedicate my life to this other pathway because that’s where the doors and opportunities are opening and that we need to take this message and share it with the world.”When we focus our thoughts and energy on what we don't want, we're going to get more of what we don't want. Click To Tweet
I know that we were talking in the green room about finding happiness. I call it an inside job. You say finding happiness from the inside. I always think everything is an inside job. It starts with us. We have to put our masks on first. We hear it all the time. Tell us a little bit about this inside job because there are a lot of people going back into the masks. I didn’t think it was going to happen. We’re wearing masks again in a lot of states. You won’t be because you guys are in a great state that you won’t be doing it, but we do here.
People are saying, “I’m free from the pandemic. Now all of a sudden, I’m constricted again. What is this going to mean?” We went through a period of time where we were all saying, not all, but just saying, “What do I do? How do I transition? How do I pivot? What do I want? I don’t know. Am I depressed?” It’s all those things that everybody went through and then feeling like you’re coming out of it only to be yanked back in. What are some strategies that you can share with our audience in helping them to be resilient from that using that inside theory?
Happiness is on the inside. One of the things that I learned about that was I had an employer years ago who came in and every so often, “Are you happy?” It got to the point that it didn’t matter what. If I saw the person, my first thought was, “Am I happy?” I had all of these answers like, “I’m 87% happy. I’m happy except for this. I was happy yesterday. Today could be better.” I caught myself focusing on the unhappiness. When we focus our thoughts and energy on what we don’t want, we’re going to get more of what we don’t want. I wanted happiness, not unhappiness.
I started keeping a happiness journal and writing down at the end of every day all my happy moments because if I was focusing on happiness, then I was going to receive more happiness. With the pandemic, the masks, what states and all of that, you can choose unhappiness by complying with your state laws and the mandates or you can ask yourself, “Where’s the happiness at this moment because in every single moment, frequency, and possibility exists?” It’s just that you’re focusing on the unhappiness part of it instead of the happiness.
I live in a state where that may not probably come back into play about us wearing masks, but in 2020 we did. What did I do during 2020? My happiness was on the inside. I went and did activities where I didn’t have to wear a mask. I stayed home, worked in my yard, or do different things because I wanted to be happy. I didn’t go where they said we had to have masks. I just chose not to because I was choosing me and my own happiness. Happiness is on the inside first. To make somebody, something, or an environment responsible for your happiness on the outside, you’re giving your power to it.
I know that the happiness emotion is tied to money. Tell us a little bit about your perspective on the money piece of this. I’ve been traveling quite a bit in my own personal experience. It’s funny in 2020, when COVID started, the buzzword was leadership and that has already transcended. People talked about leadership, moving from management to leadership in your relationships, lead yourself and lead everything.
In 2021, what I’m hearing is manifest greatness. This word of manifestation of whether it’s happiness or happiness to get money. It’s funny because everyone who talks about it says it’s not sitting and going, “I want money. I’m happy that I want money. Where’s the money?” No one has a solution on how to attract that. I’m hoping you’re going to be the one who can answer that question because I’ve been asking lots of people, “How do you manifest money with a positive attitude?”
What I do is part of what I teach and with what I share with other people and it’s all about being in a vibrational alignment. If you’re asking for money or more money because we think it’s going to bring us happiness, then the money is at the center of your core of being, your defined assets. I don’t know about you, but money is outside of me. If the happiness comes on the inside, then we have to return it to the happiness to our core divine being, that divine essence on the inside.
How do we do that? First, we have to be in vibrational alignment. When we’re in vibrational alignment, the money happens on the outside. Our subconscious records everything as an event. It’s assigning emotions and feelings to those events. It happens from the day you’re born to the day you exit this Earth. You’re not going to shut it off. That’s how our brain works. The problem is our awareness is only about 10%. That’s the feelings and emotions associated with the event.
We’re here asking, “I want more money, thinking we’re going to be happy,” but deep down on the core, there are some emotions that got associated with the event where you may have felt unworthy, unappreciated, or undervalued, which are the same words we use in the financial services world. If you didn’t feel like you were enough on the inside, chances are, you’re not going to have enough money on the outside. Your thought is, “I would like more money. I want more money,” but yet feeling the 90% energetically is going, “I don’t feel worthy of money. I feel less than. I feel lack.”
What I teach people how to do is how to shift that vibrational frequency that got stuck in the event when they were a child, change it to a higher frequency because everything exists all at the same time. When that happens, you come in alignment. When you think, “I want more money,” the feeling that 90% is already there to the 10%. You get results 100% of the time.
I know there’s a lot of energy work going on. I’ve said for years, “Slow down to speed up. Stop,” instead of speeding up to slow down. We were all forced to slow down. What it did is it raised the awareness of energy and frequency. A lot of people are talking about that now. It’s everywhere. For people who work in the woo-woo world, it has gone from the terminology woo-woo to mindset, energy work, and healing. People are more accepting of it.
I want to know for someone who is reading this and they might be going through a transition because people are still transitioning in a lot of different ways. They’re still going through some type of transition. How did they capture emotional intelligence? I know you said you did a happiness journal. I wrote that down because I do a gratitude journal, which is different than a happiness journal. As you started saying it, I was like, “They’re the same,” and then you finished and I said, “No, they aren’t.”
If they’re going through this transition, a lot of times, in transitions, we’re using our brain. We’re using our head heart as what I call it because we have three hearts. They’re using their head heart. They’re thinking that the transition and decisions that they’re going to make are all related to their intelligence quotient. I know that and we talked a little bit about this in the green room. I’ve done a lot of work on this, too. The EQ that you have your emotional intelligence correlates directly to success, making money, or your happiness.
There are a lot of things because you have this beautiful barrier that protects you from reacting to other people. What advice do you give them as they’re making this transition to tap into that intellectual quotient, but also tap into the emotional quotient as well as they’re making that change so that the change becomes the best thing that ever happened to them?
The very first step is awareness and awareness is the key. One of the things that I do, I do this naturally, but every so often, I still set a timer on my phone. Every couple of hours, when it goes off, I stop whatever I’m doing and assess how I feel. “Do I feel happy? Do I feel stressed? Do I feel worried? Am I anxious or am I in gratitude?” Once I assessed my actual feeling inside, it tells me the energy that 90% that’s going out, that’s coming back to me. If I want to change that, then I invoke a breathing exercise that I use on myself. I look at the opposite.
Say, there’s anger. Maybe I want to be in kindness, have productivity, more focus, clarity, or whatever my positive word is. When you breathe in, you’re breathing in the oxygen, all of the good things that your body needs. When you breathe out, you breathe out all of the toxins that the body doesn’t need. When I breathe in, I breathe in my good positive work, kindness. I breathe out the negative word, anger, stress, or worry. I keep repeating the same words when I breathe in, “Kindness, anger.” I do that over and over for the next 2 to 3 minutes.
I come back to work. I’m more productive. I have more focus and clarity. I shifted a little bit physiologically inside of me. A couple of hours later, that same feeling, the stress or worry, might come back. It’s a conscious and an awareness way to start working through some of those emotions and tying that back into that EQ and then intellectually overriding. You don’t get those lower emotions stuck into the event that you’re working on. If you’re paying your bills and its constant stress while you’re paying your bills, you might want to stop every two minutes and shift that energy out of the stress into something different. Otherwise, every time you pay your bills, you’re just going to automatically go into stress mode.
This is important too in relationships. If you’re driving home and you get stressed as you’re getting home, then you might need to sit in your car and do this exercise before you walk through the door and take it out on the kids, your wife, or your husband. It might be that situation that’s causing it, too. That awareness is key.You create instantaneous change when you change the feeling around the events. Click To Tweet
Transition times are so hard. Work, car, home, and you need that minute or two space. Those are the best times.
I’m so glad that you’re validating that for me because I shared that with my coaching clients. It was something I did, too, years ago. I did mortgage loans. I was on the phone all the way home from work. Work didn’t stop at work. It was all the way home. A lot of times, I was walking in the door, waving, hugging, and telling people to be quiet as I was still working.
It’s where my gratitude journal started. I started saying, “Let me write down three bulleted gratitudes.” I’ll sit in my car and talk to my client until I’m done. Sometimes I sat in my car for 45 minutes. My kids will look at me, “She is still in the car,” because I wasn’t ready to come in and be the mom and wife that I needed to be. I stop, take some breaths, and write down those three gratitudes right before I walk in just to give me a buffer in my transition.
Here’s another thing I was going to say. I’m in an incredible mastermind. We had a neuroscientific doctor coming in. Maybe it was from NASA for all I know, I don’t remember. We live in this constant state of fight, flight, or fear and we don’t breathe. I don’t know how many times I’m on my coaching calls and I see my clients and they’re not breathing. They’re talking. They go, “I’m breathing because I’m not dead.” I go, “I haven’t seen you take a breath. I haven’t seen you take in.”
He was talking about a similar breathing pattern that you’re talking about. It’s a little bit different. Fight, flight, or freeze takes us out of that state and allows us to be woken back up again. It takes us out of the zombie-ism and wakes us back up to be present and feel how we’re feeling. We got the breaths as well. It’s so good for our liver and lungs. I wanted to share that, too, because as people are reading, I’m wondering if they’re breathing as they’re reading. They may be breathing.
You’ll notice during an interview that I’m doing, I’m taking big breaths and blowing them out as I go along, but it’s not because I’m stressed. It’s because I’m pulling in as much oxygen as I can to keep my energy level high for all of these interviews I do. Someone who is emotional has a negative emotional relationship with money. Let’s talk about money specifically. Not just, “I want to manifest it. If I’m paying bills, how I feel.” How does someone change their relationship with money?
It always goes back to how you feel, but it really goes back to childhood. At the beginning of Financially Fit, the book that I put together, it talks about that because when we’re little, we are mostly innovative brainwaves. We’re learning energetically up to about the age of 7 or 8. How our parents interacted with money gave us a pattern to operate how we interact with money. One of the very things to change your relationship or pattern with money is to look and see the relationship your parents had with money and how they acted and responded to it.
My parents taught me that money was not to be talked about. It was a secret. It was only a conversation that you had between you and your spouse and nobody else because nobody else is supposed to know. When I looked at that, money was an embarrassment to my parents because they didn’t have money. They often needed help with money, especially where we were living. Help did come and everything, but it was just this embarrassment. Money is not an embarrassment. It’s a tool to use. How would you rather feel about money?
That was some of the inner work that I had to do for me on that because of how it got encoded within me. My relationship with money was embarrassing and that needed to change. It’s through the process of recognizing that, “I didn’t need money to be in embarrassment. What did I need money to be for me? Money needed to be vibrant, abundant, and prosperous.” By shifting and changing that frequency in the mind, which happens in the synapse between the two neurons through the process that I learned from a medicine woman, you create instantaneous change when you change the feeling around the events.
A lot of people get caught up in a lot of different emotions because of what they’re taught. We’re little we ask for something in the store. Our parents say no. We don’t understand why they said no. We just know that we wanted the item because we wanted to feel loved. They said no because there may not have been money, but it left you feeling unworthy of even asking for any of your needs, for example. What did you need at that time? You might have needed compassion, understanding, someone to share or explain it to you.
When you start looking at it from that point of view and make those mind shifts inside, which I use through meditation, then it will encode the event differently because in every moment, every possibility exists and then you have understanding and compassion rather than the lack or unworthiness. For me, the process is always the same in changing frequency, but each person is a little bit different to what their needs were and what they were taught. The fastest and simplest way to start changing your relationship with money is by changing those early childhood experiences.
I’m trying to figure out how I want to ask this question. You’re explaining that, “That is not the case for my son or his children.” They don’t talk about money and that’s because they have a lot of it. They don’t let their kids have things in the grocery store because they’re training or teaching them not to have instant gratification and to save. How do you know as an adult whether or not your relationship with money needs to be changed? If my granddaughter comes through this process, comes to be your age, looks back at hers and they were quiet because they had money, how would she know that has to change or doesn’t? What are some triggers for us to know whether or not we need work on this?
It’s all based on how the person feels. The daughter might think, for an example, “We couldn’t talk about it. We had to keep it quiet because we had lots of money. It was embarrassing because not everybody else had money.” Say she had a brother and he is like, “It’s just who we were. We were quiet. We wanted to keep the peace and have balance.” It’s all based on how the person perceives it because it’s all based on perception.
There are five main emotions that we go through. There’s fear, anger, and sadness. In those lower three emotions, all other feelings stem from fear, sadness, and anger. We’ll have resentment, rage, grief, loneliness, and embarrassment. If it’s a lower vibrating emotion, we want to shift it to 1 of the 2 higher emotions. The fourth one would be happiness which is the doorway to love.
If you grew up in that environment and it brought you nothing but complete happiness, it doesn’t need to change because you’ve had that frequency already set in place with the relationship of money. It’s all based on perception and how the person feels. Only that person themselves knows what that feels like and if it needs to change. If it’s imbalanced and you’re at peace and everything is feeling good, you don’t need to change it because you’re already in those higher emotions. The only ones you did if it’s in the lower.
I get and understand that now. Thank you for sharing that. I didn’t come from that. I came from very poor. We were ashamed that we didn’t have any money. Ours was the scarcity. We don’t have the money and that extra $0.15 for that piece of candy. It was always that. That’s always been ingrained in me is the 10% that says, “I want to be successful,” and then the 90% that’s saying, “You are worthy of it. It’s scarce. As soon as you get it, it’s probably not going to stay long. Be careful.”
There’s all that kind of work and I’ve been through all that work. I had to go through that work. I know you’re trying to make a big impact in the world and that’s why it’s success to significance. It’s how we make that impact. What else would you like to share with our readers in relation to happiness, emotion, money, and all of those different categories?
Be cautious of the words that you use because everything has a vibrational frequency. I would like to bring awareness that a lot of times, the words that we use on our inside to who we are as an energy being is how we describe the financial money system. When clients were telling me, “I just want to feel worthy or that I’m enough for that. I wanted to feel appreciated when I was little,” it’s totally unrelated to money.
In the money world, as a financial advisor, “Here’s your net worth, your portfolio value is, your assets appreciated. Do you have enough money to fund X, Y, Z goal? If you didn’t feel like you were enough on the inside, you didn’t have enough on the outside.” It was a direct correlation. What we don’t understand or see is that a lot of the words that we have in our society directly tie back to our divine essence. Be careful of our self-sabotaging afterthoughts. When you manifest and create something, don’t cancel it.
There are other words. Judgment is one of those. We get into judgment, but you can have a judgment or a lien against your house. We have judges in the world. There’s also a couple of other words when we’re blaming something outside of us. We’re giving our power away. We have phrases green with envy and jealousy. All of those things tie directly into our money supply and our money is green. On the flip side, there are prosperity doors. That’s faith, trust, and belief. Those are the three key elements in everything to have everything that you want.Be cautious of the words that you use because everything has a vibrational frequency. Click To Tweet
There’s so much deep work into something that, on the surface, seems so nominal. It’s something that everyone talks about and doesn’t talk about. You do or don’t. It’s one of those, “Don’t talk politics, money or religion,” when you’re talking to people. Here you are out there, talking about something that people generally don’t want to talk about, but there is a lot of depth to that and energy frequency around it. I see that all the time.
I won’t use their names. My daughter is going through that. She is like, “I feel like I’m on a treadmill because I go two steps ahead and then my car breaks down. I go two steps ahead and then my husband loses his job. I go two steps ahead and then my dishwasher breaks.” I’m going, “Listen to yourself. You’re creating a pattern of expecting that.” Where her challenge is trying to level up that frequency and you do get trapped in it. I love your exercise of increasing awareness.
If I were reading this, I would be making sure that I put some timers on my phone and, at the end of the day, that I’m writing in a happiness journal. Maybe I’m starting my day like that, too, because sometimes we go to sleep at night with some worries, but that’s when our subconscious works the most. If you have the solution in the morning, then let’s celebrate it. Breathing, happiness journal, increasing the awareness of how you feel at any given moment, and how you can turn the tables on the 90/10 rule or the 10/90 rule. Any other last-minute tips that would help people to take action?
I’m going to share with you a mantra that I wrote during all of those difficult, hard times that I went through that we talked about in the very beginning. This to this day still helps me anytime anything feels a little hard or stressful. It is, “Trust and you will see. Believe and you will know. Have faith. All is well. Follow your heart and the spirit will lead you.” Each and every time that happens, it’s faith, trust, and belief. That’s the vibrations we need to be in energetically because that opens up the doorway to happiness to the love and to create the life instantaneously that you want to live.
Thank you so much, Dawna, for sharing with us. I know that people are going to say, “How do I get in touch with you?” I know that you are giving a gift away to our readers. Tell us a little bit about the gift.
It’s the Top 5 Secrets to Becoming Financially Fit and some of the life lessons that I’ve learned. It’s a digital download that allows you to see some of the top five more things that you can do to get on track to becoming financially fit.
What a great way to start us off. You’re the gun at the beginning of the race, popping us out. That’s beautiful. If someone says, “That’s good, but I just want to give her a call because I need to figure out what my frequency is vibrating at. Am I a mess? Am I not a mess? Am I okay?” They want to get a hold of you. What is the best way to get a hold of you?
In the United States, if you text the word manifesting to 26786, that’s going to connect you directly to me to schedule a complimentary 30-minute consultation on that. It’s also going to connect you to several of my social media, Instagram, Facebook, and also to my website, which is DawnaCampbell.com.
Thank you so much. I have one last question for you. This is a fun thing. I like doing this every once in a while. Sometimes I say, “If I visited Montana, what would we be doing?” I’m not going to ask you that. I’m going to ask you, what’s your favorite comfort food?
I’m in the pizza and ice cream kind of category.
For your ice cream, is it just a couple of scoops of ice cream? When you’re in comfort, is it like, “What can I put on it? What do we have laying around the house so I can make it as ooey-gooey as possible?”
Usually, it’s just the ice cream, but it has to have six kinds of chocolate already in the ice cream.
That’s how you’ll make up for it. I like asking some random questions because it’s a funny thing. Here’s another question I’ll ask you. When you eat corn on the cob, do you go right and left like a typewriter or do you roll around?
It depends. I go left to right and then after, I go down a little bit and then over. It creates a space. If you go straight across, you have corn above and below. I like that as well when you’re eating it.
It’s one of those weird things that I look at people and I’m like, “I wonder what makes people do that.” These are funny questions that I ask all the time. Everybody who is reading this, I enacted your reticular activator. The next time you see someone eating corn, you’re going to think of this show and you’re going to say, “I wonder why they eat their corn that way.”
I also know people who cut it off and eat it because of how their teeth are.
Thank you so much for sharing. I learned so much. This is a space that I’m excited about. I love tactical and strategy, but I also love this mindset piece and it’s something that I’ve been working on. I appreciate you sharing that with us. I knew that’s the way to do a show. Mix it up a little bit so when people come on, they don’t know what to expect, but they end up leaving with something. We hope that everyone has left with something here. We hope that you’ve left with something, Dawna, as well that you can grow and experience from just in the giving that you’ve given to us. Hopefully, you’ve received it as well. Thank you so much for joining us.
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About Dawna Campbell
Known as the Mind Whisperer, Dawna combines her past knowledge, wisdom, and experience to assist you in creating and restoring life of happiness, prosperity, and love. Dawna has over 25 years combined years of professional experience. As a former Financial Advisor, her book, Financially Fit, is a #1 International Best Seller bringing together the world of money and the energy body, and the soul’s essence.
She is a professional speaker sharing her techniques during interactive workshops and maintains an international private practice. Dawna has shared the stage with Lisa Nichols, Dr. Joe Vitale, Sharon Lechter, and Kevin Harrington. Her personal Heart Centered Healing philosophy is to create a world that is a better place for all to live. www.dawnacampell.com
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